Debra's Thread

[Planewalker]

Because her hiptop can only deal with quick reply boxes.

[debraJane]

Thanks

Hope this works

I have been perusing my printout of:

MAGICK LIBER ABA

Aleister Crowley

Book Four -

And clearly the practice involves having physical space to do rituals.

This saddened me cos I live in a small room in a boarding house. Then I thought, I can use Adelaide Parklands. That caused a twinge of fear.

If anyone saw me doing rituals in the Parklands they might think I'm a Satamist and kill me.

Then I got another thought. I remembered this interesting story from the Shri mad bagvatam. It went something like this:

There was this poverty stricken Brahman. He longed to offer expensive offerings to god. He would attend services and with deep devotion, go through the rituals and offer what he could. But he yearned to do more, much more.

One day a wandering acetic master came through the village and our poor Brahmin sat with others and listened to him speak. The master said that if the sincerity and devotion was strong and focussed than all rituals and offerings done in the imagination would be accepted by god.

This changed the poor Brahmins life.

He would fullfill all his dailly duties then go outside the temple and meditate. And while people came and went, offering their offerings, he would carefully do the same in his imagination.

When he died he got a big suprise. He hardly noticed his transition cos he just came out of a meditation into the heaven were his god was.

It seemed to me that after years of doing al the rituals in his imagination, he had created a home for his god around himself. So, he did not need to go anywhere after physical death cos he was already there.

So

I will do Cowley's rituals in my imagination.

11:33am here

[debraJane]

Hi

This is the original message I tried to post here before PlaneWalker opened "Debra's thread" for me so I could post from my hiptop mobile phone. Now, I can type into the notes section of my phone then "select all", "copy" and "paste" the note into here using the "quick reply" function in this thread.

This is what I wanted to post (a couple of days ago) on the thread called Magick.

Hi PlaneWalker

I have been reading chapter VII (Samadi) of that ebook I copied from the link you put on another site. The ebook was from Hermetic.com / Crowley and is called:

MAGICK LIBER ABA.

Anyway

There is a statement in Chapter VII (Samadi) paragraph 16 sentence 7.

"Get rid of the ego, observe all your actions as if they were another's and you will avoid 99% of the troubles that await you."

Ok

I lived in Cairns then Kuranda, Queensland, Australia for 4 years as a 12 to 16 year old. Here I was surounded by spiritual hippies. Some how I picked up this (the above) concept and without trying too hard I used to do it.

I would, sort of detach and watch my thoughts and actions as if they were another persons.

Now I remember.

I heard a story about two birds in a tree. One bird lived a life; sleeping, eating delicious berries, singing joyously, mating and raising chicks. The other bird in the tree just sat quietly and witnessed all the activities of the first bird.

This story encouraged those who heard the story to understand that the tree is the human body, the active bird is the ego and the quiet but attentive bird is the eternal soul.

So

Sometimes I would just stop thinking by listening to my breathing and just watch me do all the things I did. It was a very pleasant thing to do.

Now I think this spontanious spiritual practice may have been one of the main catalysts leading to my 3 enlightenments that happened to me within a month when I was 16.

(Bfn Debra)
1:11 am Sunday 14 March here in Adelaide, South Australia

Good night, going to sleep now.

[Planewalker]

The nature of magickal rituals is rather symbolic. The performance is merely an aid, not the actual operation. The best state to perform Magick is out-of-body.

Apart from that, all reality is imagination and all imagination is reality.

What magickal ritual do you want to perform and why?

[debraJane]

I want to go all the way home beyond the space-time continuum permanently this lifetime and I will do anything to accomplish this. I don't want to come back to this place of intense suffering. I have wanted this as far back as I remember.

I tried to cheat and suicide when I was 6 years old then again when I was 9. Nobody knew about it til I Casualy blurted it out to mum when I was 18. She was shocked and I was suprised that I had never told her before.

Then when I was 10 mum got hooked on Lobsang Ramper books and he recond you can't cheat. He said if you go home too soon and break your agreement you simply don't get a holiday. You go to a hospital to heal up and have to pick a new mum and dad and do the remainder of time you originally agreed to.

If you agree to stay 50 years and you suicide at 30 then you go back and do the other 20 years. That put and end to me trying to go home by cheating. I really, really didn't (don't) want to come back ever again. That's why I still here at 50 years old.

So

My search continues for a way to go home permanently.

This Aleister Crowley thing is just the lastest stage of my search.

[debraJane]

Hi

Had my second Lucid Dream!

I was asleep and might have been for hours. Then I was weidly arching (like streaching) above my body.

I felt that I was out of my body and didn't was to lose it (lucidity) so came to the floor and quickly looked at my hands.

I didn't want to loose it (lucidity) so I didn't dare stop looking at my hands.

But

I wanted to go somewhere (or do something).

So

I kept looking intently at my hands while I dropped to my knees and crawled out (through) my bedroom door. I crawled down the hall to the kitchen, whatching my hands all the time.

In the kitchen was Paul. Paul was a caretaker of this boarding house several years ago and I haven't seen hin in years. We say "hi".

I am not looking at my hands no more and I'm standing up. There is a nice floral pattern on the kitchen wall but I know it wasn't there when I last came here in the physical. I ask Paul "how long has that been there?.

Then there is a large, warm, welcoming hearth with 3 large blocks of black coal gently burning in the fire place. I know no such thing exsists in the physical and I feel dissapionted and sad cos I no I am loosing it (lucidity).

The dream continues a bit but I'm not interested in recording it cos the rest was just "garden variety".

But don't think I am complaining. It stayed Lucid or OBE till I stopped looking at my hands.

[Planewalker]

It's a start and not a bad one. Concentrating on your hands doesn't really keep you lucid though, but it stabilizes the experience. Rubbing your hands is even better. Whatever keeps you physically involved helps to maintain the dream state. In early lucid dreams, I was rubbing my hands or touching the floor all the time.

What keeps you lucid is calm observation. Involvement stabilizes the state, but it also may be detrimental to lucidity.